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[jametuttle]
Hi all-- I began shooting cocaine about a month ago, and have done it a couple days a week since then.

{holy cow, this turned into a really long list of questions! Any answers I can get would be great, but I understand if there are just too many to respond to....}

I started using it to help me kick my Klonopin habit (I didn't take a lot-- about 5mg. a day, but I was hooked and accelerating my use)-- I couldn't get totally off of it by tapering, so quit cold turkey. Not a good idea, but the only way I could stop. The coke definitely help quell my withdrawal symptoms, and at first, they worked against each other so that I didn't feel the effect of either. Then the Klonopin was all out of my system and I finally really felt the coke rush. It's very nice, though my main interest is in the actual shooting of any drug (I know that I have a predilection for addiction to opiates, so won't do heroin).

* Anyone have links to hard facts about the danger of overdosing on coke when shooting it? (I know that it probably varies greatly from batch to batch)

* Will taking Klonopin help counteract a coke OD? (I have a friend that uses the Klon. to come down from coke)

* Though I prefer to only shoot up in the presence of another person (for safety reasons), there are times that it is not an option-- are there ways I can help myself if I do OD?

{all of these questions makes it seem as if I am terrified of OD'ing, but I just like to know how to safeguard myself}

* Is there a way to test the coke for purity that I can do myself? And is there a way to judge a safe dose (other than eyeballing it! yikes...)?

* Are there other drugs that can be injected that might be a safer alternative to coke? (I tried just shooting up saline, but it just wasn't the same)

Also, is there a way to get the cut out of coke? I just found this online, but it is only in reference to snorting it, not to injecting it:

take a small amount of powdered cocaine - 1/4 to 1/2 a gram - and dissolve it in maybe a cubic inch of water. add a drop or two of vodka or other ethanol. stir it. the cocaine dissolves into the water, leaving the cut(s) on the bottom

Cooking-- I usually don't cook the coke&water before shooting it, as someone told me that cooking it can dissolve the cut into the water more, making me shoot up more of the cut along with the coke. Is this true? When I don't cook it, there is usually a thin sediment of white, crystally stuff at the bottom of the spoon, that doesn't seem to get sucked into the needle because it gets stuck on the cotton.

Oh, yes, and the cotton-- it is used to filter impurities out of the water, right, as well as to cushion the needle so it doesn't bend/barb? Does it also filter out the cut from the coke? And when I run out of coke, is it safe to combine a few cottons, add water and use that for shooting up? (I don't get quite the rush I do with the straight coke, of course)

Thanks so much to anyone that has made it through this tome!
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From: (Anonymous)
2004-12-08 07:53 am (UTC)

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www.erowid.com & go to plants and drugs? i think. K?
From: the_fallen_one
2004-12-08 05:35 pm (UTC)

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thats ten times worse for you then heroin, sometimes i will shoot up to 50 times a night on coke, my arms will look like pulp. heroin is liek once a day.
From: jametuttle
2004-12-10 12:34 pm (UTC)

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Thanks... Yeah, I have visited Erowid, and none of these questions were answered for me, after looking over the site, which is why I was hoping for more info from someone here.

As for choosing heroin over coke-- I choose not to use opiates, as I am much more likely to get hooked on them than coke, whether my arms get messed up more by coke or not. (After 3 days of shooting, my arms are pretty ragged, but I keep them really clean and use arnica on them to help with bruising and swelling. I always give them a nice long break to heal before using again. Actually, the number of times I shoot up when using coke is one thing that keeps me from being a daily user-- I run out of places to hit veins safely.)
From: the_fallen_one
2004-12-15 01:48 am (UTC)

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well, cocaine does alot of damge to your viens. within a few eyars time it can destroy most viens. when i went into the ER recently they took an hour to find a vien.

it is simply too addictive. i neevr shoot iore the four times. you might as well smoke rock, it is less harmful actually.
From: jametuttle
2004-12-17 05:34 pm (UTC)

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I do know that it can really fuck up my veins, so I've stepped off that particular train for a little while until I can go back to using it recreationally again (I saw that I was getting really hooked) & give my veins some time to heal. As for smoking it-- my main interest is in shooting up, not just the high, so it isn't something I would do....
From: the_fallen_one
2004-12-17 06:58 pm (UTC)

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last night i shot a few grams and i did love it, but it was to hard to stop. 80 bucks a night is shit, you know.
if you do it more thne one night a week then youll get hooked. you shiould try heroin, its not how people think it is. i have done it for 2 years and never every day, never had a trainspotting liek withdrawl either.
From: jametuttle
2004-12-17 10:59 pm (UTC)

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yow, 80 bucks for a few grams?!? lucky you! if it was that cheap around here, i would do it every day (ha ha). good thing i'm too poor to do that......

as for H-- well, when i had access to morphine, i DID do it everyday (until my friend dying of cancer w/unlimited supply of M died), and have little doubt that i would do the same w/H. and having just seen my best friend go through a nasty withdrawal from it (never saw trainspotting, but this was bad), i don't really want to tempt fate. i just kicked klonopin and it really sucked. and whether it is not always like people think it is, my 5 closest friends are current, trying to kick, or recovering junkies-- and i saw what happened to their lives.... (and yes, i know what coke can do to people-- two of my sibs and both of my parents were pretty hardcore cokeheads, and another sib was a crackhead.... i'm not kidding myself that as an addict, whatever drug i do too much of can hook me...) thanks for your input though-- when i think of how much cheaper it is, and how very much i love opiates, H sounds quite appealing.
From: the_fallen_one
2004-12-18 12:02 am (UTC)

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i have a good dealer and i get pure coke for 40-50 a gram, btu i only shoot 3 times a week at most.


its only because im sort of a desparado in the drug scene here so i get good prices, but i ahve no job thats why 80 bucks isnt cheaop for me.

i withdrawled hrorribely for 3 weeks, but it was worth it. as long as you watch your shit and keep some kpin around when you have no dope its fine.

try speedballing, and youll know true godly pleasure
[User Picture]From: bloomin_onion
2005-02-17 11:36 pm (UTC)

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not into snorthing it?
From: jametuttle
2005-02-22 05:31 am (UTC)

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Hi-- Nope, snorting it never did a damned thing for me. I really like using needles, and like the way coke makes me feel when I shoot it.

However, after months of responsible usage, I went overboard and nearly OD'd on it last week after a five day binge on nearly pure coke... Uh, so yeah, I've decided to become sober, at least for awhile, because there are some people more important to me than ANYTHING else, and they would really hate to see me die...................... Not that I would particularly care....
From: travisw111
2004-12-14 05:00 am (UTC)

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Danger of overdosing on Coke? Heart palpiations, possibly coronary problems(heart attack possibly).

Klonopin will not help a Coke OD, unless it's a very small OD.

The best idea that will help you not OD, is to be careful with the amount you do. Always do a small amount of a new batch to test it's potency. Always wait at least an hour before you do another shot(I can't believe the people who IV every 5 minutes with the stuff).

I don't cook the coke either, hell I don't even cook Heroin(the tar I get dissolves fine in water although it takes about 30 seconds of stirring). The stuff that gets stuck on the cotton is in fact filler crap that you don't want in your veins, and if you see that much filler than you are getting a bad cut. THe first coke I injected was like that, but when I found a better source, I couldn't see any cut at all when I mixed it with water. It completely dissolved.

The cotton does filter out all the impurities in the coke. It's very important. It also filters out the cut from coke, at least most of it. Sometimes some of the cut is water dissolvable.

Also, DO NOT COMBINE OLD COTTONS AND ADD WATER TO THEM TO USE FOR INJECTION. Sure plenty of people do this, and I can understand it from Heroin users when they run out, but the fact is, cotton fever, which is horrible... comes from doing this. It's not from cotton fibers that get caught in the needle and that go into your bloodstream. It's from old cotton that you have already used to shoot up with, that collects bacteria. So when you take old cottons and re-use them, you're chancing cotton fever.. which is not deadly, but you will feel like you're dying. It's fucking horrible and I would never wish it upon my worst enemies.

Re-using cottons is not worth it and remember to use a small amount of a new batch to test the purity. I hope I answered your questions fully. If you want anything else explained, just ask me and i'll help you as much as I can.

The funny thing is, coke does nothing to me without Heroin added to it. I've smoked tons of crack, injected huge amounts of coke by itself and i've felt nothing. Nothing at all. But a good speedball I can feel. Strange eh? Some other people have the same problem as me.
From: jametuttle
2004-12-17 05:31 pm (UTC)

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Thanks so much-- I really appreciate your taking the time to answer my questions...

I don't reuse cottons any more (I've taken to popping them under my tongue when I am about to take a hit so that I am not tempted tp use them again-- that way I still get to use the residual coke without sticking it in my vein), and I always always always try a small hit before using more of ANY batch, even if it is supposedly from the same source...

Have a great day....
From: travisw111
2004-12-17 11:15 pm (UTC)

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No problem, helping people with using drugs safely is something I love to do. From what you've said, it looks like you're now doing a very good job of being careful. Keep it up and you'll never have to worry about an overdose. Good job, it's people that throw off these kinds of precautions and OD that give people like us bad reputations. I'm glad I could help
From: the_fallen_one
2004-12-18 12:07 am (UTC)

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valium saved my girlfriends life when she was seizuring on coke.
From: travisw111
2004-12-18 05:47 am (UTC)

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That's very good fallen one. I didn't say that benzodiazepines couldn't help Cocaine OD's, just that in severe OD's they can't really help much in most cases. In mild and moderate OD's they can be lifesavers by slowing down the heart rate and blood pressure.
From: the_fallen_one
2004-12-18 04:57 pm (UTC)

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